Posté le 19.05.2007 par fossiland
De la façon dont le membre Fossiland de Jean Phillip Schohn dit ebay.fr m'a déchiré Sur cet emplacement j'aime avertir tout le monde, à de ne pas faire le buisness avec le fossiland, le powerseller ebay et le propriétaire de cette page - fossiland.site.voila.fr (cette page semble être arrêtée) mais d'essayer celui-ci. http://membres.lycos.fr/fossiles2002/photoalbum.html ou son magasin ebay.
Après gain de l'enchère sur ebay, c'était un problème continu au sattle le paiement et l'envoi de l'article de gain. L'enchère a fini le 25ème décembre, mais seulement le 28ème janvier, je pouvais effectuer le paiement, par le banktransfer. Des histoires et des excuses embrouillantes sans fin, celle il ne peut pas, pas, ou n'enverra pas le Psittacosaur. Voir les ses email. Après encore 2 semaines de la discussion et de l'attente j'ai reçu le message que le colis était envoient. En raison du temps retarder, il a dû être envoient à un ami à moi en Allemagne. Le colis est arrivé et le fossile était en raison de l'emballage très négligent, dans le distruction complet. Voir les images. Fossiland m'a indiqué que les choses comme, ``le packing´´ expert de paleo, coutume de ´ ``ont cassé l'item´´, ``vous frein l'article, parce que vous didn´t aimez l'it´´, ``les os du dinosaur ne sont pas les mêmes comme dans le sending´´ et ainsi de suite ........................... Naturellement, il n'est pas responsable et ne remboursera pas. Il a également nié pour rapporter le demage à se lève. J'ai rapporté le demage à se lève. Le colis a été repris du du lever, pour repèrer le demage. Que lui était resended en France - fossiland. Se lève seulement negoiate avec l'expéditeur (Jean Phillip Schohn). S'il obtenait remboursé et encaissé dedans une plus de fois, je ne sais pas, il ne répond pas plus. Maintenant il a mon paiement, resended Psittacosaur et peut-être le remboursement de se lève. Pour rapporter ceci à ebay, le temps s'épuisait allready, fossilands strechted la synchronisation pour faire la protestation sufficent sur l'impossiple ebay. Ebay les a indiqués ne peut pas ne faire rien, mais me soutiendra si je rapporte ceci à la police. J'ai laissé une rétroaction négative et obtiendrai un avocat. Sur cet emplacement je montrerai les email, les images du distruction et tout autre opinon de peuples sur le fossiland
Posté le 19.05.2007 par fossiland
The endless and confusing correspondence with fossiland
26.12.2006
Hi dear Friendfor the psittacosaurus ( i sell it at very low prices!!! but it's the rules) i accept the selling no problem but there're a problem , i shipp it only in france as the description mentionned it .as at the custome the parcel size( 1m20 long) are not authorized .if you going to france i can deliver it of if you go to sainte marie aux mines in june 2007 it's possible too!!i not answer to your mail at time as it' was christmas, i was informed you to this shipping problem!My first commercal e-mail : njps@voila.Fr(i have nest of french dinosaur and alone dinosaur egg if you want and many other material who can be shipped n Portugal)or i can deliver it at Barcelona as i had familly at Barcelona..Merry christmas!!!cheers
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hi dear Gregor !ok !i will phone this week to UPS for asking if they accept the travelling to the parcel size .if they not accept , i can deliver it at the Tran station to Strasbourg (but more expensive) and give it to your friend.(what's his name?) (Souffelweyersheim are at 7/10 km to strasbourg i think in my recall)my paypal account had problem , so i prefer by bank transfer.i have more dinosaur rest's if you want seeing my list...i will contact you after tomorrow think!!my web sitehttp://fossiland.site.voila.fr/Cheers!! have a great day
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:06:57 -0800------------
hi dear Gregor;sorry for the late , i phoned to DHL and there' re a problem . it's not possible to send it as the size to the parcel maximum are 1m20 (L + l) and the parcel mesures 1m60 !
i can lie to dhl when i phone for the parcel invoice and try it ...but when the dhl guy's come....if they 're negligeant they can take the parcel, if there're serious , they not want to deliver it.
when i ask it in the action it was the psittacosurus not mounted, send in kit and i not know that rules by dhl. i thank we can shipped the parcl without size restrictions!!! DHL ask 212 euros with ASSURANCE
the other soluton are i shiped it by TGV+ TER ...but it's more expensive as i pay 2ticket (one for me one for the fossils place after i insert it in a big packageand put it on the 2places and me , i stay in the corridor ,the upright at side as if i send it by tgv merchandise it's very expensive).few sellers do it , but me as i'm honnest and your satisfastion are my priority i agree to deliver it at STRASBOURG TGV stationbut as you know you have this fossils at small price, the real valued at 3 500euros...and the market price on this type of item 2800/3500euros.think the SAFEST way are i deliver it at strasbourg to your friend or you if you're in january at Strasbourg?i will ask the price for tgv delivery .don't worrycheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:39:21 -0700-----------
i can anounce a price for delivery on Train282euros for fast shipping (tgv) and for work cost ( 14 hours of train for me!!!)as i not have reduction a nd it's 2 places for take this fossils.if you agree it i send tomorrow invoicecheersi go to sleep>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:39:21 -0700
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hi dear gregor,and happy new year 2007 !all right it's perfecti will come in february if you want , as it's less expensive to 50% if i Hold 1 month beforebut if you want it in january ...it's you you see!it's your friend who take the psitta or you?i have too nice captorhinus guti from usa at 1200euros or french dinosaur nest(on my shop) or nice salmander from germany at 1500euros .i wait your answer for january of february for giving the iban and other bank informations or if you prefer western union?
cheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 11:14:14 -0700
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the 9 februaryare you ok ?if you want in january the price was 381euros for the delivery if you agree the 9february 282euros
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so 1286 euros if you agree the date proposed
of 1386 for in january deliver
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:01:50 -0700
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Hi dear GregorI explain you :
-I take 14 hours the TRAIN and it's very boring .The 150euros it's for one PERSONN !the psitta take 2 place so 2 PESONNS (1m 25long) and i will be upright during 14hours and i sleep in the TGV all the night for the return !!!! thank you understand this BIG EFFORT ....
- and as you know psittacosaurus not cost only 1004 EUROS but much more ( i agree the price on ebay so please agree this conditions)
i can buy it at 1600euros WITHOUT problems but not ...mounted to a guy but he's so long to pay that the cause i put it on ebay.and with UPs there're a strange thing , on their WEB SITE they agree the fret (3m long) but when i called they say no ,they agree to ship parcels only long to 1m20 but to ALL size(l + L + h) (i sent one nest to 1m25 long : all size 1month ago and they said it's the limit)So i think i will Call to DHL or re-try UPSi'm not a SWANDLER .cheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 01:14:56 -0700
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So please wait before paid , i will phone to DHL tomorrow.i prefer as i work and to make 14 hours of train in 1 day it's hard ...but if dhl say no , i will do it in februarycheers
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Hi dear Gregor,I phoned to dhl this week, sorry for the late i work hard and i can't phone at my work to DHL it's Forbidden .DHL closed when i go back to my home. so i can only today :
Shipping cost are :120.75 EUROS (include 30 euros for insurance -1000euros if the parcel has been stolen) + 10 euros the big parcel i use for sending . so 130.75euros so please send 1004+130.75so 1134.75eurosvery low sell.....i hope we make more transaction in the futur. sorry for the low communication i 'm very busy but in february it will be better . let me know if you friend can send a french check(3days) or if you can send it by bank tansfer (1 week /10days for the receiving) i 'll send your fossil after i receive the payement.let me know what do you prefer.cheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:28:28 -0700>---------------
Hi Gregor,i will phone tomorrow. i don't know at this moment if it possible.why did you change the adress?
why he can't be send at french adress ? ?i prefer send it at the UPS station ( if they existed?please inform me if you know it) if you're friend not recuperate it.....AS DHL can not give to you the fossil ( they're fastidious, painful)
for less it's very hard or you have very bad things , at 1 000....and not mounted !! and now it's difficult to come from psittacosaurus from china....custom vigilence are very high now..but the psittacosaurus are mounted ....it's an work ...as you know !
but if you can have for me an psittacosaurus at 800 usd or 1000usd i can take it !!! and give a % for you (i send per ebay the swift iban the last time)
Cheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:31:49 -0700>---------------------
hi dear GregorI send the fossil after i have the payement to my bank , the tommorrow i send it !I can send it to the DHL and UPS office....but i don't know if they can keep it. i can send it at the first adresscheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:55:56 -0700
After tomorrow i give the answer for the DHL keeping
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Bon fim de semain>Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:44:46 +0000
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Hi dear Gregor,
sorry for the late
i phoned to DHL they not accept to keep it several days , it's not in her rules.they said it's inly possible with an french adress delivery's to enterprise of an friend of you or private adress to your friend....the first adress you gave .......are not OK, at this time?why?
DHL proposed to me an shipping to Germany or Portugal but more expensive, as you knowlet me knowcheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:14:46 -0800
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OKi can send it in GERMANY or at "office depot"for the adress in germany i need to know the Shipping adress completed and ZIP code for i communicate it to UPS and give to me the shipping costcheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:05:36 -0700
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Hi dear gregor,I phone TO UPS 268 euros he said for the delivery in 2daysand on her web site i see it at 257 euros.... I not understand her tarification !!!!!!!so send 1004+260so 1264euros.
thanks.cheers
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:24:09 +0000
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Hi Gregor
i send as soon as i have your payement, when the bank contact me. don't worry you will have your fossil as i'm honnest.
the parcel are done and wait only your payement.
if you want i send picture for rassuring you. Yes for 1 270 euros. i prepare the shipping as soon as i receive your payment confirmed by my bank
yes it's the right informations .
I hope we make more bisness together.i have other things at correct price and rare
Let me know when you send the money .have a great day,JP "FOSSILAND"
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Hi dear Gregor,i not get receive the money, yeti think in 3/4days my bank have the funds.i will let you know at this moment and send the parcel ASAPcheers
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: #220061699023>Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:32:19 +0000
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Hi dear Gregorno i haven't receive the money .i go tomorrow at my bank i will ask.don't worry ! i will be arrive in few time ( before the end of this week i think).cheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:12:17 -0700
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Hi dear Gregori received the money today .thanks for your sending!i will send tomorrow or friday afternoon your big parcel with UPS .let me know when you received itcheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:12:17 -0700
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Hi dear Gregor,sorry i Not send the parcel as i was in travel !!! please apologize for this 3days of latei 'll send it tomorowi Mail you as soon as for you inform your friendcheers
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:24:50 +0000
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Hi dear Gregor !
Good new i phoned to UPS for the delivery.the fossil will be sent tomorrow.
The phone girl to UPS say you will have the Fossil this FRIDAYplease prevent your friend Hans NOPPER.i hope you know this fossil not Quoted 1004 euos but 2800 ....and i hope we make more bisness together ....( i have US fossils, Chinese fossils, Mongolian Fossils....french fossils ....if yo want the list)i 'll send tomorrow the tracking number.hav a great day.
cheers
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:24:50 +0000
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hi dear gregorparcel sent at 15h35 !tracking number are the following :5856 139 894 3onhttp://www.ups.com/you will have it probably friday or tomorrow afternoon.cheers
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:38:40 +0000
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Hi dear Gregor,your friend received the parcel?i will go to ups , see itthe picture of the parcelcheers
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:38:40
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your parcel will be DELIVERY TOMORROW !he's now at LUETZELBACH at 135 km to your home.cheers
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:38:40 +0000>------------------------------
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i don't know as you buy it a very very low price, i WIN NOTHING INTO , so if i must refund you ...i LOOSE MONEY !
The package was suffisant ! and in my ebay action i precise i ship only in FRANCE BECAUSE the custom are roughly, i ever sent 2 psitta with this package in France and there are no problems !!!!!!!!!so i don't know , and a negative feedback don't arrange the things...nothing are on the matrix ....it's very strange....you must refused the parcel as i think you feel when the parcel was broken .....the song ...if i know....i never sell the psitta to you as i love this type of fossils....what do you want for compensation ?please think to me too , i make a correct package i sell it at LOW price on ebay ....i don't understand why the ribs ( who 're very fragile are in place and not the other things) who're solid !!!!in my ebay auction i precise i'm not responsable to POST BROKEN AND CUSTOM broken fault.here it's the case....
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:14:50 +0000
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i want more picture for asking
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i have the EXPERT ADVICE (1german PALEO 1french paleo) and he says it's impossible to have this type of broke with handling .because the silicon (the glued) are very solid and left trace on the IRON MATRICE. here there' re NO TRACE.so i think for this reason , and because i say i 'm not responsable to CUSTOM BROKEN in my ANNONCE and i only ship in france this type of parcel , and i NEVER HAD PROBLEMS with French and european people I WILL NOT REFUND MONEY+ low price too.
i only propose to you re send the psittacosaurus and i glued every BONES and i re send it in kit. after you mounted yourself on the matrix it's not difficult.and take 3 hours. The skull are not endommaged . i have several bones in my home too.
it's honnest. very honnest. as i LOOSE money and time!! and now i have an offer at 2000euros on your psitta ...but....it's too late i very unhappy....i hope you 're honnest too....
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:14:50 +0000
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hii just read now your mail and your...negative!!!!!you're very not patiente althougth i wait many time for the payment...(sic)it's Your custom who're reponsible or UPS not me!it's suffisant for a pistta , and the glue are vey protect and efficace.REFUND ? you not read !!!! i not refund if it's the CUSTOM fault!here, it's the case!!!!and with UPSit's your friend the responsable because if it was broken , THE MUST BE OPEN IT and REFUSEd the parcel he will have this 1000euros to insuranceso if he ACCEPTEd th parcel it's YOUR FAULT ,not merefund it ?and yu know i sell it WITH 0 pofit to you!!!i willhave an other psittacosaurus in 1 month i can send it but you pay 50 % but as youleave your feedback ....i'm not your SLAVEand i think you broken yourself several bones.so if you not happy and if you not conciliant as you 're in fault ( my auction said i not shipping in other country + i'm not responsable to custom BROKE and by UPSinsurance your friend can open and constat it you willbe refund) and i willsend it in france but you NOT wanted !!!!! why ?.so i not want this negative or i leave and negative too .please respect me and i will respect you .i proposed to all reglued it .....it's not suffisant?here to send psittacosaurus and sellit at - 50 % price.
so please retire this negative or i send NOTHING .i'm a power seller i 'm serious.it's not my fault if you not buy with reading the disclamer and if ups or customer are very rough ! !! ! !! ! !!as you said you was a wholesaler , you must know my position. i do the max but "il ya des limites"cheers>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem >Artikel #220061699023>Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:32:41 +0000-------------
you tell lie , i write to ebay too of you want to write.you not see the condition of sellingno shipping cost in germany(or you want to send it in germany althougt you give to me an adress infrance and after you REFUSED)not responsable to custom broken)and your friend hans nopper are in wrong but the parcel not arrive broken i phone to ups, because i think if the parcel arrived explosed you heard it and you're not stupid you claimed it at the moment.so you want to fuck me .and i know the silicone, on the iron slab when you arrached it the glued leave.or it's the case.SO YOU DESTROY YOURSELF THE DINOSAUR./
because you broke YOURSELF your psittacosaurus i never REFUND TO YOU NOW !!!!!because i have the certitude you want to swandle to me !!!!!!i believe in you but now, NOand it's was an real item. if you not want it's your problem, iADIOS
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 00:43:50 -0700
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The bones are not the bones of my psittacosaurus....you broke the skull detached the bones YOURSELF ...maybe they were 10 % of broke but as you're nervous you broke all the things for being refund....and you never read my auction, no responsable if custom broke, and no shipping in germany if you want to win all the time, you loose sometime....you must accept it.so no refund !!!!ma reiner is you ?i hope for you ,no because I will be advertice my friends to ebay...so ADIOS
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Posté le 19.05.2007 par fossiland
D'autres plaintes avec le même fond sous le lien suivant, j'ai trouvé ceci :
JP Schohn is a little thief, un petit voleur, able to steal me 35 dollars .I bought him one fossil on Ebay, and never sent me the fossil or refund the money. Poor guy, I prefer that you ask me the money, I can help you for 30 dollars.. but no lies, please. AKA Fossiland, njps, gresko... etc. He lives in Marseille France. MB
http://www.gtlsys.com/TradeShow/Booth/108/Desk.html
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Un exemple de ce cas, peut t'arriver en achetant a un petit voleur qui habite a Marseille, et qui s'appelle JP Schohn et sur l'ebay est Fossiland, Fossil'and ou pareil, dans ce cas tu as un risc, il faut etre prudent. http://www.geoforum.fr/index.php?showtopic=3162&st=20
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Bonjour,
Je témoigne à mon tour, ayant eu un différend avec cet individu ("Fossiland"), qui un jour a essayé de me vendre un faux en provenance de Chine.
D'ailleurs, si vous avez quelque peu l'expérience des fossiles, il vous suffira de vous rendre ici pour constater que cette personne est à nouveau en train d'essayer de vendre un faux Psittacosaurus sur Ebay.
C'est une personne tout simplement malhonnête et de mauvaise foi.
Posté le 04.05.2007 par fossiland
How Jean Phillip Schohn alias ebay.fr member Fossiland ripped me of
On this site I like to warn everybody, to not do buisness with fossiland, the ebay powerseller and the owner of this page - fossiland.site.voila.fr (this page seems to be shut down) but try this one.
http://membres.lycos.fr/fossiles2002/photoalbum.html or his ebay shop.
After winning the auction on ebay, it was a ongoing problem to sattle the payment and sending of the winning item.
The auction ended on 25th of december, but only on 28th of january, I was able to make payment, by banktransfer. Endless confusing stories and excuses, that he can not, will not, or will send the Psittacosaur. See his emails.
After another 2 weeks of discussing and waiting I got the message that parcel was send.
Because of the time delay, it had to be send to a friend of mine in germany.
The parcel arrived and the fossil was because of very careless packing, in complete distruction.
See the pictures.
Fossiland told me things like, ``paleo expert packing´´,´``custom broke item´´, ``you brake the item, because you didn´t like it´´, ``the bones of the dinosaur are not the same like in the sending´´ and so on...........................
Of course, he is not responsible and will not refund. He also denied to report the demage to Ups.
I did report the demage to Ups. The parcel was retaken from Ups, to spot the demage. Than it was resended to france - fossiland. Ups will only negoiate with the sender (Jean Phillip Schohn). If he got refunded and cashed in one more time, I do not know, he is not responding no more. Now he has my payment, the resended Psittacosaur and maybe the refund of Ups.
To report this to ebay, the time was running out allready, fossilands strechted timing to make sufficent protest on ebay impossiple. Ebay told they can not do nothing, but will support me if I report this to police. I left a negative feedback and will get a lawyer.
On this site I will display the emails, the pictures of the distruction and other peoples opinon on fossiland.
See this site too: http://fossilland.site.voila.fr/
Posté le 04.05.2007 par fossiland
Under the following link, I found this:
JP Schohn is a little thief, un petit voleur, able to steal me 35 dollars .I bought him one fossil on Ebay, and never sent me the fossil or refund the money. Poor guy, I prefer that you ask me the money, I can help you for 30 dollars.. but no lies, please. AKA Fossiland, njps, gresko... etc. He lives in Marseille France. MB
http://www.gtlsys.com/TradeShow/Booth/108/Desk.html
..........................................................................................Bonjour,
Je témoigne à mon tour, ayant eu un différend avec cet individu ("Fossiland"), qui un jour a essayé de me vendre un faux en provenance de Chine.
D'ailleurs, si vous avez quelque peu l'expérience des fossiles, il vous suffira de vous rendre ici pour constater que cette personne est à nouveau en train d'essayer de vendre un faux Psittacosaurus sur Ebay.
C'est une personne tout simplement malhonnête et de mauvaise foi.
Posté le 04.05.2007 par fossiland
The pictures are best to see here:
http://fossilland.site.voila.fr/
http://fossiland.blogspot.com/2007/04/pictures-of-parcel-and-destruction.html
Posté le 04.05.2007 par fossiland
The endless and confusing correspondence with fossiland
26.12.2006
Hi dear Friendfor the psittacosaurus ( i sell it at very low prices!!! but it's the rules) i accept the selling no problem but there're a problem , i shipp it only in france as the description mentionned it .as at the custome the parcel size( 1m20 long) are not authorized .if you going to france i can deliver it of if you go to sainte marie aux mines in june 2007 it's possible too!!i not answer to your mail at time as it' was christmas, i was informed you to this shipping problem!My first commercal e-mail : njps@voila.Fr(i have nest of french dinosaur and alone dinosaur egg if you want and many other material who can be shipped n Portugal)or i can deliver it at Barcelona as i had familly at Barcelona..Merry christmas!!!cheers
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hi dear Gregor !ok !i will phone this week to UPS for asking if they accept the travelling to the parcel size .if they not accept , i can deliver it at the Tran station to Strasbourg (but more expensive) and give it to your friend.(what's his name?) (Souffelweyersheim are at 7/10 km to strasbourg i think in my recall)my paypal account had problem , so i prefer by bank transfer.i have more dinosaur rest's if you want seeing my list...i will contact you after tomorrow think!!my web sitehttp://fossiland.site.voila.fr/Cheers!! have a great day
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:06:57 -0800------------
hi dear Gregor;sorry for the late , i phoned to DHL and there' re a problem . it's not possible to send it as the size to the parcel maximum are 1m20 (L + l) and the parcel mesures 1m60 !
i can lie to dhl when i phone for the parcel invoice and try it ...but when the dhl guy's come....if they 're negligeant they can take the parcel, if there're serious , they not want to deliver it.
when i ask it in the action it was the psittacosurus not mounted, send in kit and i not know that rules by dhl. i thank we can shipped the parcl without size restrictions!!! DHL ask 212 euros with ASSURANCE
the other soluton are i shiped it by TGV+ TER ...but it's more expensive as i pay 2ticket (one for me one for the fossils place after i insert it in a big packageand put it on the 2places and me , i stay in the corridor ,the upright at side as if i send it by tgv merchandise it's very expensive).few sellers do it , but me as i'm honnest and your satisfastion are my priority i agree to deliver it at STRASBOURG TGV stationbut as you know you have this fossils at small price, the real valued at 3 500euros...and the market price on this type of item 2800/3500euros.think the SAFEST way are i deliver it at strasbourg to your friend or you if you're in january at Strasbourg?i will ask the price for tgv delivery .don't worrycheers
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i can anounce a price for delivery on Train282euros for fast shipping (tgv) and for work cost ( 14 hours of train for me!!!)as i not have reduction a nd it's 2 places for take this fossils.if you agree it i send tomorrow invoicecheersi go to sleep>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:39:21 -0700
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hi dear gregor,and happy new year 2007 !all right it's perfecti will come in february if you want , as it's less expensive to 50% if i Hold 1 month beforebut if you want it in january ...it's you you see!it's your friend who take the psitta or you?i have too nice captorhinus guti from usa at 1200euros or french dinosaur nest(on my shop) or nice salmander from germany at 1500euros .i wait your answer for january of february for giving the iban and other bank informations or if you prefer western union?
cheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 11:14:14 -0700
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the 9 februaryare you ok ?if you want in january the price was 381euros for the delivery if you agree the 9february 282euros
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so 1286 euros if you agree the date proposed
of 1386 for in january deliver
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 01:01:50 -0700
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Hi dear GregorI explain you :
-I take 14 hours the TRAIN and it's very boring .The 150euros it's for one PERSONN !the psitta take 2 place so 2 PESONNS (1m 25long) and i will be upright during 14hours and i sleep in the TGV all the night for the return !!!! thank you understand this BIG EFFORT ....
- and as you know psittacosaurus not cost only 1004 EUROS but much more ( i agree the price on ebay so please agree this conditions)
i can buy it at 1600euros WITHOUT problems but not ...mounted to a guy but he's so long to pay that the cause i put it on ebay.and with UPs there're a strange thing , on their WEB SITE they agree the fret (3m long) but when i called they say no ,they agree to ship parcels only long to 1m20 but to ALL size(l + L + h) (i sent one nest to 1m25 long : all size 1month ago and they said it's the limit)So i think i will Call to DHL or re-try UPSi'm not a SWANDLER .cheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 01:14:56 -0700
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So please wait before paid , i will phone to DHL tomorrow.i prefer as i work and to make 14 hours of train in 1 day it's hard ...but if dhl say no , i will do it in februarycheers
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Hi dear Gregor,I phoned to dhl this week, sorry for the late i work hard and i can't phone at my work to DHL it's Forbidden .DHL closed when i go back to my home. so i can only today :
Shipping cost are :120.75 EUROS (include 30 euros for insurance -1000euros if the parcel has been stolen) + 10 euros the big parcel i use for sending . so 130.75euros so please send 1004+130.75so 1134.75eurosvery low sell.....i hope we make more transaction in the futur. sorry for the low communication i 'm very busy but in february it will be better . let me know if you friend can send a french check(3days) or if you can send it by bank tansfer (1 week /10days for the receiving) i 'll send your fossil after i receive the payement.let me know what do you prefer.cheers
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Hi Gregor,i will phone tomorrow. i don't know at this moment if it possible.why did you change the adress?
why he can't be send at french adress ? ?i prefer send it at the UPS station ( if they existed?please inform me if you know it) if you're friend not recuperate it.....AS DHL can not give to you the fossil ( they're fastidious, painful)
for less it's very hard or you have very bad things , at 1 000....and not mounted !! and now it's difficult to come from psittacosaurus from china....custom vigilence are very high now..but the psittacosaurus are mounted ....it's an work ...as you know !
but if you can have for me an psittacosaurus at 800 usd or 1000usd i can take it !!! and give a % for you (i send per ebay the swift iban the last time)
Cheers
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hi dear GregorI send the fossil after i have the payement to my bank , the tommorrow i send it !I can send it to the DHL and UPS office....but i don't know if they can keep it. i can send it at the first adresscheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:55:56 -0700
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After tomorrow i give the answer for the DHL keeping
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Bon fim de semain>Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:44:46 +0000
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Hi dear Gregor,
sorry for the late
i phoned to DHL they not accept to keep it several days , it's not in her rules.they said it's inly possible with an french adress delivery's to enterprise of an friend of you or private adress to your friend....the first adress you gave .......are not OK, at this time?why?
DHL proposed to me an shipping to Germany or Portugal but more expensive, as you knowlet me knowcheers
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OKi can send it in GERMANY or at "office depot"for the adress in germany i need to know the Shipping adress completed and ZIP code for i communicate it to UPS and give to me the shipping costcheers
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Hi dear gregor,I phone TO UPS 268 euros he said for the delivery in 2daysand on her web site i see it at 257 euros.... I not understand her tarification !!!!!!!so send 1004+260so 1264euros.
thanks.cheers
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:24:09 +0000
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Hi Gregor
i send as soon as i have your payement, when the bank contact me. don't worry you will have your fossil as i'm honnest.
the parcel are done and wait only your payement.
if you want i send picture for rassuring you. Yes for 1 270 euros. i prepare the shipping as soon as i receive your payment confirmed by my bank
yes it's the right informations .
I hope we make more bisness together.i have other things at correct price and rare
Let me know when you send the money .have a great day,JP "FOSSILAND"
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Hi dear Gregor,i not get receive the money, yeti think in 3/4days my bank have the funds.i will let you know at this moment and send the parcel ASAPcheers
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Hi dear Gregorno i haven't receive the money .i go tomorrow at my bank i will ask.don't worry ! i will be arrive in few time ( before the end of this week i think).cheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:12:17 -0700
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Hi dear Gregori received the money today .thanks for your sending!i will send tomorrow or friday afternoon your big parcel with UPS .let me know when you received itcheers
>From: "Membre eBay: petrefacta" >Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: tisia_rubby@hotmail.fr>Subject: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel #220061699023>Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:12:17 -0700
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Hi dear Gregor,sorry i Not send the parcel as i was in travel !!! please apologize for this 3days of latei 'll send it tomorowi Mail you as soon as for you inform your friendcheers
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:24:50 +0000
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Hi dear Gregor !
Good new i phoned to UPS for the delivery.the fossil will be sent tomorrow.
The phone girl to UPS say you will have the Fossil this FRIDAYplease prevent your friend Hans NOPPER.i hope you know this fossil not Quoted 1004 euos but 2800 ....and i hope we make more bisness together ....( i have US fossils, Chinese fossils, Mongolian Fossils....french fossils ....if yo want the list)i 'll send tomorrow the tracking number.hav a great day.
cheers
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:24:50 +0000
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hi dear gregorparcel sent at 15h35 !tracking number are the following :5856 139 894 3onhttp://www.ups.com/you will have it probably friday or tomorrow afternoon.cheers
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Hi dear Gregor,your friend received the parcel?i will go to ups , see itthe picture of the parcelcheers
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your parcel will be DELIVERY TOMORROW !he's now at LUETZELBACH at 135 km to your home.cheers
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i don't know as you buy it a very very low price, i WIN NOTHING INTO , so if i must refund you ...i LOOSE MONEY !
The package was suffisant ! and in my ebay action i precise i ship only in FRANCE BECAUSE the custom are roughly, i ever sent 2 psitta with this package in France and there are no problems !!!!!!!!!so i don't know , and a negative feedback don't arrange the things...nothing are on the matrix ....it's very strange....you must refused the parcel as i think you feel when the parcel was broken .....the song ...if i know....i never sell the psitta to you as i love this type of fossils....what do you want for compensation ?please think to me too , i make a correct package i sell it at LOW price on ebay ....i don't understand why the ribs ( who 're very fragile are in place and not the other things) who're solid !!!!in my ebay auction i precise i'm not responsable to POST BROKEN AND CUSTOM broken fault.here it's the case....
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:14:50 +0000
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i want more picture for asking
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i have the EXPERT ADVICE (1german PALEO 1french paleo) and he says it's impossible to have this type of broke with handling .because the silicon (the glued) are very solid and left trace on the IRON MATRICE. here there' re NO TRACE.so i think for this reason , and because i say i 'm not responsable to CUSTOM BROKEN in my ANNONCE and i only ship in france this type of parcel , and i NEVER HAD PROBLEMS with French and european people I WILL NOT REFUND MONEY+ low price too.
i only propose to you re send the psittacosaurus and i glued every BONES and i re send it in kit. after you mounted yourself on the matrix it's not difficult.and take 3 hours. The skull are not endommaged . i have several bones in my home too.
it's honnest. very honnest. as i LOOSE money and time!! and now i have an offer at 2000euros on your psitta ...but....it's too late i very unhappy....i hope you 're honnest too....
>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem Artikel >#220061699023>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:14:50 +0000
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hii just read now your mail and your...negative!!!!!you're very not patiente althougth i wait many time for the payment...(sic)it's Your custom who're reponsible or UPS not me!it's suffisant for a pistta , and the glue are vey protect and efficace.REFUND ? you not read !!!! i not refund if it's the CUSTOM fault!here, it's the case!!!!and with UPSit's your friend the responsable because if it was broken , THE MUST BE OPEN IT and REFUSEd the parcel he will have this 1000euros to insuranceso if he ACCEPTEd th parcel it's YOUR FAULT ,not merefund it ?and yu know i sell it WITH 0 pofit to you!!!i willhave an other psittacosaurus in 1 month i can send it but you pay 50 % but as youleave your feedback ....i'm not your SLAVEand i think you broken yourself several bones.so if you not happy and if you not conciliant as you 're in fault ( my auction said i not shipping in other country + i'm not responsable to custom BROKE and by UPSinsurance your friend can open and constat it you willbe refund) and i willsend it in france but you NOT wanted !!!!! why ?.so i not want this negative or i leave and negative too .please respect me and i will respect you .i proposed to all reglued it .....it's not suffisant?here to send psittacosaurus and sellit at - 50 % price.
so please retire this negative or i send NOTHING .i'm a power seller i 'm serious.it's not my fault if you not buy with reading the disclamer and if ups or customer are very rough ! !! ! !! ! !!as you said you was a wholesaler , you must know my position. i do the max but "il ya des limites"cheers>From: gregor@clix.pt>Reply-To: gregor@clix.pt>To: "Jean Philippe SCHOHN" >Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Mitteilung eines eBay-Mitglieds zu diesem >Artikel #220061699023>Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:32:41 +0000-------------
you tell lie , i write to ebay too of you want to write.you not see the condition of sellingno shipping cost in germany(or you want to send it in germany althougt you give to me an adress infrance and after you REFUSED)not responsable to custom broken)and your friend hans nopper are in wrong but the parcel not arrive broken i phone to ups, because i think if the parcel arrived explosed you heard it and you're not stupid you claimed it at the moment.so you want to fuck me .and i know the silicone, on the iron slab when you arrached it the glued leave.or it's the case.SO YOU DESTROY YOURSELF THE DINOSAUR./
because you broke YOURSELF your psittacosaurus i never REFUND TO YOU NOW !!!!!because i have the certitude you want to swandle to me !!!!!!i believe in you but now, NOand it's was an real item. if you not want it's your problem, iADIOS
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The bones are not the bones of my psittacosaurus....you broke the skull detached the bones YOURSELF ...maybe they were 10 % of broke but as you're nervous you broke all the things for being refund....and you never read my auction, no responsable if custom broke, and no shipping in germany if you want to win all the time, you loose sometime....you must accept it.so no refund !!!!ma reiner is you ?i hope for you ,no because I will be advertice my friends to ebay...so ADIOS
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